Quote Originally Posted by Biggin View Post
it sure looked to me that he had it sunk it. by the look on shields face as well, it looked like it was in and tight.
he did not have it in but for less than 7 seconds, most can hold on that long
I agree with steer, it was close to fully in but Shields had just enough of his chin tucked to relieve a bit of the pressure. With more time it still would probably have ended the fight. He also didn't have his none chocking arm in too good of a position, basically a c-grip which is slower due to being harder to eliminate space.